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C. H. Reynales
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Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 04:32 am:   


Overall Appearance:
-Round Stainless case and back(~37mm)
-Automatic moving parts
-Original condition,except for strap
-Fully operational

Grade:
-Excellent to Near Mint

Dial:
-Brush silvery surface
-Central rotating section for alarm
-Square silvery hands with luminous tips
-True sweep second hand
-Silvery baton hour markers around main face,
except for 12 o'clock which is the JL logo.
-Luminous dots at end of each hour marker.
-Triangle alarm marker in central dial section.
-14K gold convex bezel on outer edge of dial
projects and overall chanpagne halo.

Legends:
-"LeCoultre" on an ARC below l2 o'clock JL logo.
-"Memovox" behind alarm pointer.
-"Automatic" at end of 6 o'clock marker.
-"T-Swiss-T" below 6 o'clock marker

Lens:
-Clear plastic (?) with faint scratches
from about one year of use.

Crowns:
-Two. Unmarked.

Back:
-Clean stainless steel surface.
-No identifying numbers
Legends:
*STAINLESS STEEL
USE ALL PROOF WRENCH 1335

Strap:
-Not original. (Speidel expando)

Movement:
-No details. Never opened (No 1335 wrench!)

Operation:
-Normal timekeeping
-Smooth sweeep second hand
-Automatic counterweight and crown winding
-Working crowns

Pacakge:
-Original presentation box; green with gold trim
and LeCoultre insignia.
-No papers. Purchased on late Fifties
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C. H. Reynales
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Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 04:47 am:   

Hello Zaf:
It took some doing, but I finally managed to get all the information together!
Hope this gives you enough information to classify the watch and assign an approximate valuation.

Thanks

CHR
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Zaf
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 01:17 pm:   

Ok, this is probably a 1960s watch (not a 1950s one like you think). If it is nice & clean with it's original box, value is in the $1300-1600 range.
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Hex onX
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 03:31 pm:   

That watch looks familiar somehow. I recognize the bracket and the different lower crown. Was this recently on Ebay?
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C. H. Reynales
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 10:54 pm:   

To: Hex onX

This watch has not been on eBay or anywhere else.
Until a few weeks ago it laid forgotten in one of my filing cabinets. However, I am sure it is not ONE of kind!
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C. H. Reynales
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 11:31 pm:   

Hello Zaf:

Thank you for your indulgence and patience with my bumbling postings. And special thanks for your time and expertise with the ID and the valuation.

So it is from the 60's and not the 50's. -- All I remembered is that I went to a clock shop with a friend that was buying an ATMOS. I was so taken with its silent operation that I went back the week after to get one of my own, While I was there I spotted the Memovox in the display case.

Do I need to take it to a jeweler with a "1335 wrench" to get information about the movement?

Thanks for wisdom!

CHR
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Hex onX
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Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 01:30 pm:   

Chreynales
Isn't great when you do some spring cleaning and you find something like this? :-)

Congrats!!!
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C. H. Reynales
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Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 04:02 pm:   

To Hex onX:

Thanks. You broght up a real chuckle.

Actually, I was not spring cleaning. I had to move the cabinet, and I had to empty it first.

I have never done any business on eBay. Sounds too complicated. My computer savvy son, however, is a real fan and has found many Mayflower memorabilia at that site. Perhaps, one of these days I should join the 21st Century and give it a try.

If you remember an exact reference of where you saw the watch I would apreciate seeing it.

CHR
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 03:41 am:   

C.H.,

To answer your question, the reference to a "1335 wrench" means that the movement comes out through the top/crystal... the case is one-piece and the back doesn't come off. I can't tell you how many of these watches I see with gouges and pry marks on the back because the owner didn't realize it was a 1-piece case.

A 1335 wrench is a crystal compressor that allows you to compress and remove the crystal without destroying it. Actually, any old crystal puller will work, because the stock acrylic crystals are readily replaceable if you scuff it while removing. Once the crystal is off, there is usually a small retaining trim ring around the outside that can be removed and then the movement will come out easily through the top.

GregB
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C. H. Reynales
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Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 07:25 pm:   

To GregB:

So the movement comes out of the front. Wonders never cease.

Thank you so much for your illuminating response and saving me a lot of grief trying to "open" the solid back of this LeCoultre watch.

Since I would like to offer this watch for sale, one question remains: Is the movement on this particular watch a known standard, or do I need to have it opened to get specific, or necessary, details before I list it???

Thanks,

CHR
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Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 07:40 am:   

CHR,

The movement in your watch is indeed a known standard... a 17-jewel caliber 815 bumper automatic. The only thing opening the watch would tell you is the movement serial number which could be used to date production within a year or two. I believe that production on the caliber 815 started in about 1956 and went through the late 1960s, so your watch dates sometime from that period. Hope this helps.

Greg
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C. H. Reynales
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 09:21 pm:   

To GregB

Back online after vacation.

Apologies for the delay in acknowledging your clinical diagnosis of the movement in my Memovox. It is almost as if you had long distance x-ray eyes.

You, Zaf and Ilja, sure know fine watches!

Since the clock shop where I bought the Atmos and the Memovox is long gone, and I do not trust anyone around here to have a "335 wrench", or know how to pop the crystal, I will just leave it as is. Thus, when I offer it for sale, I can truthfully decribe the watch as "being in its original never-opened condition".

Another question, please: There is something very different about this watch. After looking thru numerous sites and photos, so far I have not seen one watch that looks exactly like this one. Is the gold convex bezel that projects a golden chanpagne glow over the dial, exclusive to this model?

Again, thank you for sharing amazing knowledge and for kind help.

CHR
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C. H. Reynales
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Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 05:52 pm:   

To GregB:

Here is one more question to partake of your vast knowledge of fine watches:

I would like to sell my "unopened" LeCoultre- Memovox, as described in the Forum thread.

Could you please provide the addresses of a couple of reputable dealers who would be interested in purchasing this watch?

Thanks,

CHR
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 04:22 am:   

Zaf might be able to help you. You're also welcome to contact me privately at [email protected]

Greg