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Richie
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 01:37 pm:   

what is the value of this LeCoultre..14K..original band with 14K filled buckle..original box and papers..Diamond hands..Mystery Dial
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Zaf
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Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 06:47 am:   

The watch alone is arounf $800, the box a papers will probably add another $200.
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rp13245
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Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 07:14 am:   

You didn't tell Zaf anything about the condition... the most important thing when buying a watch. Mint NOS. The copied picture of my watch looks horrible.
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Michaela
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Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 11:27 am:   

The watch is worth alot more then that, I just sold the exact watch for �1600 without papers and origional box.
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Zaf
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Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 08:26 pm:   

Hi. One sale is not necessarily a good indicator of the value of a piece. I was just offered one this week for $900 which I turned down. �1600 for a two diamond dial mystery is the highest price I have ever seen, and for that congratulations, you made out like a bandit.
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GregB
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Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 02:17 am:   

The watch that "Richie" asked about in the original post on this thread was my auction. I was the seller RP13245. The watch was absolutely pristine/NOS and had the original box, papers & LeCoultre strap/buckle. The original strap didn't even have a bend in the leather. Not a single blemish on the original factory dial and the unbuffed original factory mirror finish on the case was perfect. The watch ended up fetching $2,295. Clearly, this amount is many times the normal market price for this model, but condition is everything to a collector and this watch was in extremely rare NOS condition. If the condition is right, all pricing rules go out the window.

These 2-diamond Mystery dials normally go for $800-$1,200 at auction. The prices on all LeCoultre Mystery Dial models have been climbing in the last couple of years, but a price over $1,200 would be unusual unless the watch was truly in exceptional condition.

Greg

P.S. On a sad note, the (non-collector) buyer of my NOS Mystery Dial watch put it into daily wear. I could never bring myself to strap it on.
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Hex Onx
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Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 04:41 pm:   

You also have to consider inflation since January 2004. The rising costs of fuel and COLI (cost of living index) make vintage watches more valuable as an investment.
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GregB
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Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 05:20 pm:   

Respectfully, COLI has very little to do with the rise in watch prices over the short 1 year period from 2004 to 2005. In fact, the U.S. Dept. of Labor Statistics calculator (http://www.bls.gov/cpi/home.htm) shows an increase of only 4% from 2004 to 2005. On a more global scale, the COL Index for most major cities worldwide (http://www.finfacts.com/costofliving3.htm) rose only a few percentage points from 2004-2005.

Clearly, the average price of these watches didn't jump 322% from $900 to �1600 (about $2,900) because of a 4% COLI. Condition and market demand have far greater impact on price than inflation.

Greg