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Ann
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 08:36 pm:   

Hi - I have an Illinois watch which I believe was made about the time Hamilton acquired Illinois. My confusion is the serial #5659706 which was idenified as 1945 on one chart?? My mother's maiden name is inscribed on the back and she was married in 1934 and after that would have used her married name. It also has a jeweler's repair date on the inside back of 1936. It is 15 jewels and 605 movement. I've been able to get "close" to identifying the stepcase but not exactly - the steps on this one are more pronounced and it has a point on the top and bottom of the watch. Any help in model name and manufacture date would be appreciated. Thanks, Ann
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Zaf
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   

Do you have a Hamilton signed movement in there?
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Ann
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 10:56 pm:   

Hi - It doesn't say "Hamilton" anywhere on the movement. It's marked Illinois Watch, Springfield, USA. Here's a URL for the movement. Ann http://www.deadzoom.com/member/henry/ILLINOIS5.jpg
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Zaf
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 06:35 pm:   

Hello, if the dating is the only issue you have, I think that may be misleading. The correct date is probably 1934. From what I understand, the *remaining* Illinois inventory was assembled by Hamiltion between 1933 and 1948, the actual production is likely to have been 1933 or before. So I think what you have makes sense, a 1934 Illinois assembled by Hamilton around 1934.

Sorry the delay, it took a while to research it.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 09:54 pm:   

Hi - Thanks so much for taking the time to help me solve this mystery. Your explanation makes sense. Any ideas on a reference source to obtain the model name? I've looked at dozens of websites over the past year and have never seen another model like this one. Thanks again for your help. Regards, Ann
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Zaf
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:10 pm:   

Fred Friedberg has an excellent book on Illinois, but I have not been able to find in in there. How is the cased marked on the inside?
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 11:46 pm:   

Hi - The inside back case is marked SCEPTER and surrounded by a rectangle with points on the right & left ends. Under that is 0629623 in a semicircle (like a smile) and under that is hand etched 983136. Inside the front case on one edge of the steps are some hand etched lines which look like l^V111111. Here's a link to the back inner case. http://www.deadzoom.com/member/henry/ILLINOIS7.jpg
Thanks again, Ann
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 11:49 pm:   

Ok, that may explain things, the watch might be recased! I'll check Fred's book tomorrow to see if Illinois/Hamilton ever used that case manufacturer.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 12:03 pm:   

Hi Zaf - Just wondering if you've had any luck identifying this watch? I'm not sure if by "recased" you mean pre or post purchase? My mom who is 96 said the watch was purchased "new" and it was never recased after she received it. Ann
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Zaf
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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 12:21 pm:   

Sorry, I don't see it in Fred's book. Maybe you can email him? He knows me, just tell him I sent you and by the way, the book is really really good.

His email is:
[email protected]

you can order the book at:
www.Illinoiswatches.com
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debii thompson
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Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 08:37 pm:   

Hi I have an old Hamilton watch that I found with all my dad's things when he passed away. It has Union Steel and dates on the back. It is 17 Jewel and 10 k gold filled. It was made in Lancaster, Pa and also has Wadsworth on it. Any one have any information on it.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 12:35 am:   

You would need to up load a screen resolution photo with a specific question, thanks.