| Author | Message | ||
     Wyvo New member Username: Wyvo Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2011 Rating: N/A |
hi all, i own this beautiful memovox world time. it is 18 k yellow gold, calibre 825, produced ca. 1960 i would welcome any expert views on this watch kind regards  | ||
| Wyvo New member Username: Wyvo Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2011 Rating: N/A |
here another photo, more close up  | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 5473 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Hi, the dial looks refinished to me! Where did you get it? | ||
| Wyvo New member Username: Wyvo Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2011 Rating: N/A |
thanks for your response i got it at brocantique watches in maastricht, the netherlands, europe. it is a well known name and very trustworthy to their opnion it is all original what u mean with refinished ? i am very eager to know your insights kind regards, | ||
| Peter_green New member Username: Peter_green Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2010 Rating: N/A |
I always like to look at world timers.A good place to start is at the pointer,many times the K`s will be covered up with the pointer if it is redone.In this case it is something all together different.New York is abbreviated and Bangkok is misspelled,this is definitely not a factory dial but a redial | ||
| Wyvo New member Username: Wyvo Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2011 Rating: N/A |
Hi Peter, On the the dial there not a reference to Bangkok but to Bangladesh, I think ! And there are more dials that are exactly the same (with the abbreviation of NY). See also on chrono24: https://www.chrono24.nl/jaegerlecoultre/memovox-vintage-world-timer--id1899996.htm?dosearch=true&picnum=6&query=memovox+world+time&resultview=list&searchexplain=1&suchen=Zoeken&tab=pics&urlSubpath=%2Fsearch%2Findex.htm See also this Picture:  So i think this dial is a factory dial. Kind regards | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 5474 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Sorry but the one you show above is definitely refinished. Even the outer dial on that one doesn't look right to me. Perhaps the same source? By refinished we mean that the dial is repainted. | ||
| Wyvo New member Username: Wyvo Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2011 Rating: N/A |
Hi Zaf, Thanks for your comments. The watch in steel is definitely not from the same source, in this case it is from a private seller in Germany. How can you see for sure that it is repainted ? And is it repainted in a totally diffferent way ? What does it mean for the watch and its value ? Kind regards, | ||
| Ilja Moderator Username: Ilja Post Number: 312 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Maybe a bit 'ad hominem' but when finding an artisan interpretetion of a "LeCoultre Chronograph Calender" on their site this surely does not speak for dealers reputation in general. ;) I never understood the hype for worldtime Memovoxes when just a flimsy disk print makes a difference. Leading to the value - there should be no huge differnce to a normal calibre 825 Memovox especially when the disks printing is in question. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 5477 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Happy new year Ilja. In my opinion both world time disks are reprinted and have the wrong font and texture. Bangladesh? Why would it be the only country there? Normally that spot is Bangkok. Also, if it's a > 1965-66 watch, it would indicate the use of tritium. Unfortunately, many of the watch "enhancements" particularly when it comes to dials are coming out of Germany. | ||
| Ilja Moderator Username: Ilja Post Number: 313 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Happy new year Zaf!  Additional the lume on dial is white while disk's triangle is filled in yellow color. |