| Author | Message | ||
     Buzz Rickson New member Username: Buzzrickson Post Number: 15 Registered: 04-2006 Rating: N/A |
hi to all, on german ebay i saw a gold jlc with a quarz movement - can that be right? did jlc ever produce a quarz watch? http://cgi.ebay.de/HOCHSELTENE-JAEGER-LECOULTRE-HERRENUHR-18-kt-GOLD_W0QQitemZ89 29885918QQcategoryZ9242QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem | ||
| Stefan Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Hi Buzz, - yes, JLC did produce watches with quarz movements - no, the one you did link does not look like the models you see quite frequently in auctions - no, there is no photo of the movement in the posting - no, the seller does not state anything about the originality of that movement, it says (translated) "swiss precision quarz movement" -- not JLC quarz movement... Be carefull, if interested I personally would ask the seller for a picture of the movement AND a guarantee of the originality of this movement. Regards, Stefan | ||
| Buzz Rickson New member Username: Buzzrickson Post Number: 16 Registered: 04-2006 Rating: N/A |
thanks for the info. anyway. i´d never buy a quarz! and this one is especially ugly too! i was just wandering wether jlc did produce also quarz watches (a shame they did). | ||
| clavi Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
This watch is completely genuine, and there is no shame in producing a quartz watch (JLC still does, as does Patek also ! ) In fact, JLC has produced some interesting (and IMHO somehow collectible) watches in the early days of the technology (based on Girard Perregaux technology and not on the big Beta 21 conglomerate) for example, I am the proud owner of this beauty :-) (which I must admit I have never dared to wear in public ! )   Most, if not all, high end manufactures have produced quartz in the 1970's (actually, the ones which were not able to do it didn't survive the swiss industry crisis). There is only one company which argues that they have never produced a quartz watch, but the reason is that during the quartz revolution, they were dead :-) | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1931 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
JLC claims to have made the FIRST quartz watch. Hmmm....is that true? They claim they had one in 1967 called the "Beta 2". | ||
| jdelikat Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
The Swiss claim to have invented the Q based watch. They thought it would never replace mechanical movements. They discounted the concept and CASIO( a Japanese firm acquired the concept(patent)? from the Swiss and launched a series of Q based watches. The demise of over 60% of Swiss manufacturers was the result. If you read from history most or all of the prestige watch mfgs suffered as well. My comments are based on my constant reading of articles, papers and trivial facts. I do not claim expertice but recollections from the 70's. BTW How do you explain the demise of many mfgrs in Switzerland other than this paragigm concept Comments | ||
| anthony Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Here is some information found on the web ; "In 1962 the Swiss watch industry founded a new research laboratory, Centre Electronique Horloger (CEH). The laboratory's mission was to develop a new kind of electronic watch. At CEH, the laboratory staff, numbering about 25 people by 1965, started a variety of projects aimed at reinventing the wristwatch. CEH shared space in a building already occupied by an established laboratory, Laboratoire Suisse de Recherches Horlogères (LSRH). The Swiss watch industry had set up LSRH in 1940 to investigate matters relating to mechanical timepieces. Precisely what kind of new watch would emerge from CEH's efforts was uncertain at the beginning, but by 1967 researchers there had two kinds of working quartz watch prototypes. CEH entered these quartz watch prototypes in the Neuchâtel Observatory's time trials in 1967 and won the first ten places in the contest for wristwatch accuracy. This success prompted CEH to proceed with still another version of the watch, this time designed for commercial production. The first Swiss quartz watches for sale--each of which contained an electronic module designed at CEH and dubbed Beta 21--were available on April 10, 1970 under the brand names of nearly twenty different watch companies. For information about the modern Swiss electronic industry visit the Centre Suisse d'Electronique et Microtechnique SA website at http://www.csem.ch " Japan; "In 1959 Seiko assembled a team of researchers to develop a quartz wristwatch. Seiko had been a maker of mechanical watches since the end ot the 19th century. The company had introduced the first Japanese pocketwatch in 1895 and the first Japanese wristwatch, the Laurel, in 1913. Seiko turned its attention to quartz timekeeping in 1958, when it introduced a quartz crystal clock. A team of researchers was then assembled to work on project "59," the quartz wristwatch. The primary objectives of the project were to reduce the size to that of conventional mechanical watches, and to achieve reasonable prices through volume production. The research team's progress was marked by the introduction of increasingly smaller quartz timekeepers. The first prototype of a portable quartz chronometer, the Seiko 951 was announced in 1961 and marketed in 1963. It was this chronometer that was used as the official timepiece at the Tokyo Olympics in 1964. A prototype pocketwatch and wristwatch, the model 953, were announced in 1967. After 10 years of effort the Seiko 35SQ Astron went on the Japanese market on December 25, 1969, the first commercially available quartz watch." | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1935 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the post, my BS meter pegged when JLC claimed they invented the quartz watch in 1967. |