| Author | Message | ||
     blakestimemachines Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
I have a lecoultre 37 diamond mystery watch that has 14K D&A on the back. Inside the case back it says cased and timed in USA by Lecoultre and has a beautiful lecoultre movement. How would it compare in price to the "Galaxy V&C" 37 diamond lecoultre? Also what does D&A mean?.......blakestimemachines | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1414 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
D&A is the name of the U.S. contractor that made the case. I'm not sure I understand the other question....how would it compare to? | ||
| blakestimemachines Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
I beleive the galaxy model had the V&C signature on the back of the cases. Mine does not. I would like to know how they would compair in market value. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1416 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
I see. It's still a Galaxy, just a later one. One of our posters had dug up one ads with the V&C on the back but was still called a Galaxy. I'd imagine the V&C version to be worth 20-30% more though. | ||
| blakestimemachines Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Have any idea what one like this may fetch? | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1417 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
I'll give you a wide range of $1600-2400. | ||
| blakestimemachines Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
What if there is a problem with the minute hand? The watch runs beautifuly but the minuite hand slips. When the watch is laid flat the minuite hand works but when it is held upright the minuite hand fall back. How big a problem? and how will it effect the value? | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1418 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Gee I really don't know for sure without see it. Sounds like a minor issue and should not detract, but problems like this do tend to freak out retail buyers. | ||
| blakestimemachines Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
It has a 480/CW movement. Does that help or hurt? Im not experienced with lecoultre but it is the nicest looking movement I have ever seen. It has some wave damaskeening or something in certain light conditions...... Sorry about all the questions. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1420 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Neither, That's what should be in there... | ||
| blakestimemachines Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
You have been a wealth of information. Thank you. ......blakestimemachines | ||
| GregB Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Zaf, Just to clarify, not all Galaxy models had the cal 480. Some of the very last ones made used a cal 818. These tended to be the 18K white ones with the textured bezel. They got rid of the metal movement ring and the caseback had a much smaller opening to accept the smaller cal 818 movement. | ||
| swk Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
also the three letter code on the movement would identify it as vacheron or whichever, even if it isn't written anywhere. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1758 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
To be perfectly clear: The 3 letter VXN code is simply an EXPORT MARK shared by LeCoultre & Vach. VXN marked LeCoultre movements ARE NOT made by Vacheron, as much as eBay seller would like you to believe that. | ||
| Hex Onx New member Username: Hexonx Post Number: 76 Registered: 09-2005 Rating: N/A |
At least it's not an A.LeCoultre movement like this auction? Zaf, does this seem right or did someone switch movements? http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-LECOULTRE-MYSTERY-DIAMONDS-DIAL-SOLID-14K-GOLD_W0QQi temZ8914381126QQcategoryZ31387QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1762 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
No way that movement came with that watch. It's a Franken. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1763 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
I'm not even sure the case is legit either. | ||
| Hex Onx New member Username: Hexonx Post Number: 77 Registered: 09-2005 Rating: N/A |
Yep. It's Mr. Frankenwatch again from Canada.  | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1764 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Seems to be a one man organized crime ring. | ||
| Hex Onx New member Username: Hexonx Post Number: 78 Registered: 09-2005 Rating: N/A |
I think he is scraping the bottom of the parts barrel for his masterpieces. The parts are looking pretty used now-a-days. His choice of screws have been quite entertaining and of course those movements are hilarious. | ||
| Hex Onx New member Username: Hexonx Post Number: 79 Registered: 09-2005 Rating: N/A |
Finally a neutral feedback from someone I thought would have known better not to bid. I have followed this buyer before and he appeared to know what he was doing previously. I am really not surprised that there are no negative feedbacks since those who are in the know are not wasting their time? Dead horse syndrome? I hope someone is paying attention.  | ||
| Hex Onx New member Username: Hexonx Post Number: 83 Registered: 09-2005 Rating: N/A |
Question. Would you pay over US $1700 for a movement that looked like this? Well, someone did in a LeCoultre Mystery frankenwatch.  | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1772 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
If I could just harness the resources of the world's morons, I would rule the world! | ||
| Hex Onx New member Username: Hexonx Post Number: 84 Registered: 09-2005 Rating: N/A |
I'm just waiting for someone to have their Franken appraised "before" leaving feedback. I can see it now, oh an ETA Valjoux caliber with a bogus LeCoultre signature, $250. Or. This A.LeCoultre movement did not come with this watch. $400. Prices are just examples. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1778 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Pretty frustrating. I have to work pretty hard to sell a $1700 watch, the good old fashioned away, and then I see people parting with $1700 as if they just bought a McDonalds happy meal. | ||
| Hex Onx New member Username: Hexonx Post Number: 85 Registered: 09-2005 Rating: N/A |
I realize that in order to be successful, one has to pour on the flash and over describe an auction. Fancy Borders, a systematic portfolio of pictures all in a military style position, each showing great detail in the same order. Dr. Frankenwatch's auctions prove this theory well. He displays them in this manner and hypnotizes these clueless folks who have lots of "worldwide" cash. It's all about marketing this Franken-product well and so well, that people think it's legit. Shame on Ebay but they can't police it all. I'm thinking he's buying the replicas online for about $200 to $250 a piece and then adding just enough original parts to make it sound true. | ||
| Bruce A New member Username: Bpabpa Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2006 Rating: N/A |
Quick question regarding the 37 diamond LeCoultre mystery watch: I've noticed that some of the dials in which the signature is at the 6:00 position, have what appears to be a copyright mark (the c with the circle around it) just after "LeCoultre" while others do not. Is this a known deviation or is only one of these versions genuine? Thanks, Bruce | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1795 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
It's a known variant. | ||
| some guy in NY Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
read with interest the above stuff about the ebay Frankenwatch. I almost bought a Futurematic from the same seller. Increasingly glad I didn't . . . thanks. | ||
| Hex Onx New member Username: Hexonx Post Number: 90 Registered: 09-2005 Rating: N/A |
UR welcome... I believe Zaf has Futurematics, if your are interested. You won't have to worry about it being a "Franken". | ||
| some guy in NY Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
have emailed Zaf looking for a Futurematic, but I'm hooked on the notion of finding one with a black dial. So far, no luck. But I'm a patient man. I think. Thanks again. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1803 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Well, one day, if you guys are all nice to each other, I'll pull a few and sell them out of my collection... | ||
| Bruce A New member Username: Bpabpa Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2006 Rating: N/A |
I'm fascinated by black dial Mystery Watches and Futurematics as well. Generally, are they in greater demand? Also, do you have any sense on how their production volumes differed from their "white" dial equivalents? Thanks, Bruce | ||
| Hex Onx New member Username: Hexonx Post Number: 91 Registered: 09-2005 Rating: N/A |
Zaf- How about this guy. Nice watch. Buy it now price is impressive. http://cgi.ebay.com/SUPER-RARE-JAEGER-LeCoultre-FUTUREMATIC-SOLID-GOLD_W0QQitemZ 8911647841QQcategoryZ111672QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1805 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
I have a solid 14k gold one silver two tone, for a little over $2000. That is a reasonable price. $4000 is whacky. I'd be happy to sell all my black dialed 14k ones for 4 grand. I have several. | ||
| Hex Onx New member Username: Hexonx Post Number: 92 Registered: 09-2005 Rating: N/A |
How did I know you were going to say something like that. IMHO, that is the only legit looking watch this guy is selling. His Rolexes trip the red flag for me. Somehow they look "Franken". |