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Kzs70
Junior Member Username: Kzs70
Post Number: 20 Registered: 05-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 02:11 pm: | |
Hello, Has anybody seen an E855 Memovox with such a blue dial? Does it look original, or repainted? Thanks, Zsolt
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Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 4217 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 04:05 pm: | |
There is such a blue lapis dial yes, though I don't recall specifically if an E855 had it. I think it's yes though. |
   
Sensas
Junior Member Username: Sensas
Post Number: 33 Registered: 05-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 07:13 am: | |
Never seen before lapis dial Memovox, and another strange is the hand, IMHO not original |
   
Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 4220 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 07:31 am: | |
I think Clavi has some experience with these. For a long time I only bought what I liked, and I can't see myself running around with a lapis watch! |
   
Sensas
Junior Member Username: Sensas
Post Number: 34 Registered: 05-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 09:25 am: | |
I think It's a "german restored watch" |
   
Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 4223 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 09:52 pm: | |
Well, they are the best at it! When the first generation guys like myself die off, no one will be able to tell fact from fiction. |
   
Sensas
Junior Member Username: Sensas
Post Number: 35 Registered: 05-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 02:21 am: | |
Hard to decide, I hope Clavi will tell the true but for me, this watch is not OK |
   
Clavi
Member Username: Clavi
Post Number: 59 Registered: 11-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 06:27 pm: | |
I know for sure that this dial did exist, at least as a 'factory part', and maybe as an original watch. It is likely that a small number of 855 with lapiz type dial were issued at some point. I do own not a blue 'simili lapiz dial' like this one, but a 'simili rosewood' or 'simili tortoise shell' dial 855 which is in the same configuration (but different colour), for which I am 100% sure that the watch is not a frankenwatch. So, I would tend to believe there could have been a very small number of theses 'simili lapiz' 855 produced. That being said, the hands of the above watch are definitively wrong (should be of the late 'baton' type), which casts a doubt on the total authenticity of the watch as being fully original. But I would tend to believe that both the watch and the dial are genuine Jaeger LeCoultre (just not sure if this very watch was initially sold with this dial). Not certain I did help a lot here with my comments here, but I think there is a high degree of authenticity in this dail and maybe the watch/dial combination.... Example of the so-called "lapiz' dial, likely factory original:
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Sensas
Junior Member Username: Sensas
Post Number: 36 Registered: 05-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 02:23 am: | |
Thank you your comment Clavi |
   
Sensas
Junior Member Username: Sensas
Post Number: 37 Registered: 05-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 10:28 am: | |
and what about this "wonder" ?   |
   
Clavi
Member Username: Clavi
Post Number: 60 Registered: 11-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 03:17 pm: | |
Dial is right, case is definitively wrong / remade... This watch has been on the auction site tens of times. it is dodgy today as much as it was the times before... |
   
Kzs70
Junior Member Username: Kzs70
Post Number: 21 Registered: 05-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 11:45 am: | |
Thank you for your useful comments! |
   
Thomasm
Junior Member Username: Thomasm
Post Number: 14 Registered: 03-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 04:37 am: | |
Thank you Clavi, your post is really interessant. I like these dials. |
   
Rjkflyer
New member Username: Rjkflyer
Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 02:12 am: | |
Looking at the second watch, would the fact that it has luminous hands suggest they are too late to match the watch correctly? Mind you, who's to say what the date of the 'watch' is?! |
   
Clavi
Member Username: Clavi
Post Number: 63 Registered: 11-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 05:40 pm: | |
2nd watch is fake, so whatever hands it has doesn't really matter. However, all automatic memovoxes did have luminous hands, so these hands would be normal with this type of dial (which belongs to an E855 which had luminous hands for all dial versions) |
   
Yangtse
New member Username: Yangtse
Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2010
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 05:04 pm: | |
Presently a similar watch on sale in Paris : http://www.type22.com/detail.php5?m=379641 |