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Nicethings
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 06:10 am:   

I own a very nice Le coultre Quatermaster since about 15 years and think about to sell it. But I could not find any hints about this watch expect one old tread here in this forum. Can someone give me some more informations about this watch (steel case with gold coulored dial,blue steel hands and a gold colured hand with a red arrow for the seconds, in excellent condition) and an advice where to sell and what I can expect aprox. for this watch.

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Zaf
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 08:44 am:   

I can't get your link to work...what is a .psf file?
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Nicethings
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 08:56 am:   

sorry here is a jpg file
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Zaf
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 09:36 am:   

The dial looks repianted to me...what is that silver part just above the center post and below "LeCoultre"?
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Nicethings
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Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 09:22 am:   

I dont think so because until now no body was aware that could be a special and very rare watch, so no body would spent a lot of energy in such a project. I am not an expert but I can not find any hints of a repainting, for me the dial looks old with a little nice patina. The movement is marked with the kaliber K831/CW and "Le Coultre Co" and the no.1305972. The quality of the pictures is bad, because I only have my GSM telephone for making the pictures. I real the watch looks much better
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Gregb
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Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:24 am:   

You weren't talking to the right people if "nobody was aware it was a rare and special watch". Zaf and several other people who frequent this board know the Quartermaster model well. I've bought/sold (3) of them myself in the last few years.

The silver applied part below the LeCoultre signature on the dial has me stumped, also. I've never seen this on the Quartermaster dials before. The Quartermaster had at least 2 original dial layouts that I'm aware of. Yours looks original to me, but your hands look like replacements.

Below are a couple of dials that are similar to yours. Notice that the Quartermaster script is an exact match, which is what makes me think your dial is original.





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Nicethings
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Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 11:16 am:   

Here in Germany I did not find anybody who knows this watch, it is the first time that I get some infos about this watch, and I have never seen an other quatermaster until now, maybe it is because I live in europe and if I remember right, zaf wrote that this watch was only for the american market and only 2500 units where produced. so I think that only a few watches will exist in europe.
Regarding the hands your right that they look different to mine. maybe I have a later version or they where changed, but they look very nice on this watch. Is the ser.No.1305972 on the movement helpfull to find out more and is the caliber K831/CW correct. You see I dont had any information about this watch until I found now this forum. Thanks a lot
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Stefan
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Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 11:52 am:   

There is on at Henry�s in Germany which looks, umm... was on the bay as well... pricing umm... regards Stefan
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Zaf
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Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 11:45 am:   

It's always hard to tell from photos, but I'm pretty sure the dial is redone. The font on the seconds track doesn't look right to me.

(Message edited by admin on December 20, 2008)
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Nicethings
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Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 08:36 am:   

Your right that the font of seconds is different to the other watches which are shown here. Can you give me some informations about these type of watches or where I can find some. Are they from the 40th or 50th ? Do you know, is possible to get detailed informations from Jaeger LeCoultre in Swiss ? What could aproxm. the pricerange for this watch ?
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Gregb
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 05:27 am:   

According to Zaf's Book, 2,500 of the K831/CW movements (unique to this watch) were were made between 1957 and 1958. Since these were single-model movements, they probably would have been cased and shipped to market faster than most models. Not all of the movements would have been cased (some held as spares), so the number of watches originally sold is probably somewhat less.

The last Quartermaster I sold went for around $2,500, however like any low production watch, prices vary dramatically higher/lower depending on originality, venue, and marketing.

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Sensas
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Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 04:43 pm:   

Thanks for the share these pictures.
Only 2500 - not a big number, but I saw some differences. eg.: In Zaf's book find another "minuteline" painting. Another, finded a picture with another Quartermaster paintig - simply linear, and another style.
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Nicethings
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 04:52 am:   

Thanks for the informations, regarding also to the last message from sensas I could image that this watch is a original one, but it is not the "standard" model.
Thank you also for the price estimation.
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Zaf
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 09:48 am:   

The dial on the watch in the watch in the book has been refinished so that is not a good model to go by.