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     Rachel Unregistered guest Rating: |
Hi folks! I'm currently trying to decide about this watch: <img> It's a women's 18k manual-wind, circa 1950. I believe the case number is 9081. Can anyone tell me anything else about it, along with a fair price range? I think it's gorgeous, but must do due diligence. Also, I have to admit that I have never had a manual wind watch before. I've had modern quartzes, and I have an older automatic. Is there anything in particular I should know about taking care of a manual wind watch? Thanks a million for any wisdom you can share! | ||
| Rachel Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Duh. Sorry about the picture problem. Lemme try that again:  | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 624 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Is it a ladies watch or a small mens? Form the looks of it, it looks like the dial has been repainted, so a little bit of caution is advised. You may want to try to get a shot of the movement and the inside of the case back. It it not a model that I recall seeing. | ||
| Rachel Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Thanks so much for your reply! It's 26mm, so I assume it's a ladies (or boys?). How can you tell if the dial's been repainted? I'll see if I can get movement/case shots. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 625 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
The print on the dial should be perfect. You'd need a loupe to look at it closely. When the dial has been repainted, you just want to take extra care and verify that all of the insides are JLC as well. The reason I think it is repainted is that the style is a little out of character for them. Also having a really low case number like 9081 is kind of strange. By the 1950s they were well into 6 digit case numbers. 26mm is a ladies size. | ||
| Ilja Probst Moderator Username: Ilja Post Number: 68 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Zaf is right, check for the movement signature, this thing smells fishy. I�m not aware of any handwind Ladies movement having a center second. Ilja | ||
| Rachel Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Thanks, I've asked for more information. I actually really like the (unusual) style; I think the old-style numbers contrast nicely with the modern-looking bezel. If the insides are JLC, is a repainted dial like that a big collector's no-no? Obviously I'm not a collector, but I'd like to buy wisely (and maybe someday become a collector.. okay, I did NOT just say that). | ||
| Rachel Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Thanks, Ilja. It wouldn't take an awful lot to fool me in this department, so I'm grateful for the advice. If he tells me more about the movement, I'll let you know. If he can't or won't then I'll just pass. I felt slightly safer looking at JLC because I hoped that, as a lower-profile brand, there'd be fewer fakes -- but that doesn't preclude what my antique dealer friend used to call "bad marriages" (two things that have nothing to do with each other being put together). | ||
| Deirdre McCarthy New member Username: Deirdre Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2004 Rating: N/A |
INFO PLEASE ON JLC LADY'S WATCH I'm looking for info on a JLC lady's watch that wa bought for me in 1972-3 (can't remember the exact year). It's a manual wind bracelet watch with the bracelet being steel (I think) and of quite heavy, elaborate links that look "etched" or distressed, giving the watch an antique look. The case is oval with the same antique-looking metal, face is white and numerals are Roman. There are two sets of numbers on the back; the first set reads 1217082 and below those numbers are 16161. I am considering selling this watch as I haven't worn it for years and would like to get an idea of its value. Unfortunately, I'm not able at this time to post a picture of it. Thanks for any help you can provide:-) | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 627 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Hi there, it's really going to be tough telling you more about it without a photo. I can't derive much from the case serial number although it is possible that 16161 is the case reference number. If so, Ilja may have it in an old catalog but I don't. In general, steel ladies watches are not worth a whole lot, so it may not be all that lucartive to sell it. | ||
| Rachel Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
He's replied that the case has a number on it: 1265318 . No reply yet about the movement. I do notice, however, that he's relisted it on eBay. I've pretty much decided to pass, but I'm curious as to the movement information, and I'll let you know if I ever do get it. BTW, the seller is a guy who co-wrote "The Complete Price Guide to Watches" -- so I'm surprised that he doesn't include much information in his auction listings... | ||
| Rachel Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Hey, third time's a charm -- he replied! "The movement is a caliber 819 and has a movement # of 1990526." Um, does this mean anything to you?  | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 661 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Ok, I do find caliber 819 in one of the books, a 2M serial number would indicate circa 1968 production. | ||
| Rachel Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Thanks for checking! Do you have any sense of what a range for fair market value could be? 1968 sort of makes sense, if I look at the style and squint. The seller says it hasn't been repainted, so perhaps it's just an odd model. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 664 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Something like $300-400? Ladies pieces don't go for much. | ||
| Rachel Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Eh, I was afraid that was the case. He's asking $700 (down from $775) and I stumbled across this one while trying to shop in the $500 range. I'm heartened that you think I might be able to get a JLC for that. I've had trouble finding something that's not one of those tiny cocktail watches. I'm sorry if this is off-topic or not-allowed-talk, but please let me know if there are any good sites to shop at besides eBay! Thanks. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 666 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Not sure about other sites, but I'd expand my search to include small mens watches. They're better investments. We have a few on site, did you look there? | ||
| Rachel Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
I only looked under ladies -- any larger than 27mm or so looks too big on my wrist (I'm pretty small). I guess I might luck out and find a boys' model. |
