| Author | Message | ||
     Mcom New member Username: Mcom Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2008 Rating: N/A |
Hi, I'm completely new to this forum, to watches in general and I need your help. I saw a memovox worldtime yesterday but was really unsure of its authenticity and would like to have your advices. Thanks a lot.     Ed. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 3254 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
As a world time it is a fake. | ||
| Mcom New member Username: Mcom Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2008 Rating: N/A |
Thanks a lot ! And could please tell me why ? Signed Jaeger-lecoultre and only lecoultre on the dial ? Colors ? What else ? Another question... What to do when getting such a watch ? And is this one a fake, too ?     | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 3255 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
The dial has been repainted. Both have fake dials. | ||
| Gatorcpa Member Username: Gatorcpa Post Number: 69 Registered: 11-2006 Rating: N/A |
"And could please tell me why? Signed Jaeger-lecoultre and only lecoultre on the dial?" This is another reason why Zaf call this a fake Worldtime dial. LeCoultre was the US marketing name for JLC watches in the 1950's and 1960's. I know of no LeCoultre-dialled watch that left the factory with a JLC-branded movement like the ones posted above. All LeCoultre-dialled watches (that I've seen) have LeCoultre-branded movements, even if otherwise identical to an equivalent JLC movement. There are some JLC-dialled watches that have LeCoultre-branded movements. See link below for an example. http://www.ninanet.net/watches/others08/Mediums/mjlcgeo.html Hope this helps, gatorcpa | ||
| Clavi Junior Member Username: Clavi Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2006 Rating: N/A |
Well, actually I know of one model of LeCoultre dialed watch that sometimes came (originally) with a Jaeger LeCoultre branded movement: the military 6B/159. Back to this worldtime: another way of telling it is a complete frankenwatch (way beyond the repainted WT dial) is that such early memovox type case would never house a (much later) cal 910 ! There is just nothing good in this watch appart from its movement. Still, it will probably sell well, how sad | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 3257 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
This is now getting interesting, the 910 is a 13 ligne movement and the 489/814 is a 12 ligne movement. That case, is made for the 489/814, yet it somehow takes the larger 910. I suspect the case might be made up as well! he side profile doesn't look right. | ||
| Clavi Junior Member Username: Clavi Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2006 Rating: N/A |
Yes, the lugs are definitively too thick and their profile is also weird. Plus, the inner caseback also looks dodgy. As I said, I think only the movement was Jaeger LeCoultre in the first place (and likely taken from a memovox pocket, as the cal 910/911 are pretty scarce in wristwatch versions) | ||
| Clavi Junior Member Username: Clavi Post Number: 33 Registered: 11-2006 Rating: N/A |
Actually, I hadn't even notice that there were 2 different watches in this post (1 k825, 1 k910), the 2 with similar fake dials. There is apparently an 'artist' somewhere who didn't do enough homework before trying his luck at artificially 'enhancing' the value of these watches (which didn't deserve this bad fate) | ||
| Herrk New member Username: Herrk Post Number: 12 Registered: 03-2007 Rating: N/A |
One more (just for the fun of it): the rotor bridge of the cal. 815 one is marked Jaeger-LeCoultre whilst the balance bridge bears VXN marks. That makes it more than likely that even the movement of the first watch has been put together using parts from more than one original movement. Christian | ||
| Mcom New member Username: Mcom Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2008 Rating: N/A |
Incredible ! Thanks for all... |