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jacopo
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Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 12:14 pm:   

Could anyone help me in dating this reverso?
What do you think about its condintions?
Thanks
Jacopo
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Zaf
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Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 12:18 pm:   

Late 1931 to Early 1933. It has a Tavannes movement. I don't know if the hands are original. Maybe Ilja has an opinion?
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jacopo
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Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 12:27 pm:   

Thanks Zaf,
they told me its a calibre 064 15 jewels: can you confirm it

what do you think is worth?
are the Tavannes movementless valueable?
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Ilja Probst
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Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 01:40 pm:   

The movement in fact is a Tavannes 064. From the bridge layout it seems to be a "DeLuxe" version.
Identical hands are shown in the Reverso book, so far this would be the 2nd or 3rd I see, having this hands.
The crown isn�t original. Dial probably is redone since it should additional read DeLuxe, based on the movement.

Tavannes Reversos are a bit less collectable because of the movement. On the other hand these are the very first Reversos, so they are more historical important...
Depending on conditon they sell between $1600 and $2500.

Ilja



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jacopo
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Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 12:51 am:   

Hi Ilja and Zaf,
I'm getting confused: someone told me that is not a Lecoultre since it has a Cyra movement.
can you help me get things straight??
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jacopo
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Zaf
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Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 06:30 am:   

Good Question. It was assembled in the LeCoultre factory, but the early ones had a Tavannes movement and Wenger made the case. LeCoultre did not have a movement that fit until 1933, after which the movement was a LeCoultre. Jacques-David LeCoultre was heavily involved in it's development, so yes, it is a LeCoultre, but the first ones used a non-LeCoultre movement.
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Jacopo
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Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:08 pm:   

But is it Cyra and Tavannes the same thing?
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Zaf
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Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:17 pm:   

Yes, Cyma was a brand name of the Tavannes watch
company.