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jacopo Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 12:14 pm: | |
Could anyone help me in dating this reverso? What do you think about its condintions? Thanks Jacopo![](https://www.classicwatch.com/discus/messages/622/2168.jpg) ![](https://www.classicwatch.com/discus/messages/622/2169.jpg) ![](https://www.classicwatch.com/discus/messages/622/2170.jpg) |
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Zaf
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Post Number: 518 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 12:18 pm: | |
Late 1931 to Early 1933. It has a Tavannes movement. I don't know if the hands are original. Maybe Ilja has an opinion? |
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jacopo Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 12:27 pm: | |
Thanks Zaf, they told me its a calibre 064 15 jewels: can you confirm it what do you think is worth? are the Tavannes movementless valueable? |
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Ilja Probst
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Post Number: 61 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 01:40 pm: | |
The movement in fact is a Tavannes 064. From the bridge layout it seems to be a "DeLuxe" version. Identical hands are shown in the Reverso book, so far this would be the 2nd or 3rd I see, having this hands. The crown isn�t original. Dial probably is redone since it should additional read DeLuxe, based on the movement. Tavannes Reversos are a bit less collectable because of the movement. On the other hand these are the very first Reversos, so they are more historical important... Depending on conditon they sell between $1600 and $2500. Ilja
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jacopo Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 12:51 am: | |
Hi Ilja and Zaf, I'm getting confused: someone told me that is not a Lecoultre since it has a Cyra movement. can you help me get things straight?? Thanks jacopo |
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Zaf
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Post Number: 519 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 06:30 am: | |
Good Question. It was assembled in the LeCoultre factory, but the early ones had a Tavannes movement and Wenger made the case. LeCoultre did not have a movement that fit until 1933, after which the movement was a LeCoultre. Jacques-David LeCoultre was heavily involved in it's development, so yes, it is a LeCoultre, but the first ones used a non-LeCoultre movement. |
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Jacopo Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:08 pm: | |
But is it Cyra and Tavannes the same thing?
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Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 525 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:17 pm: | |
Yes, Cyma was a brand name of the Tavannes watch company. |