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     Keke New member Username: Keke Post Number: 51 Registered: 07-2006 Rating: N/A |
Do you know this model? is it vera rare? what was his value in 1966?  | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 2924 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
It's most likely fake given the source. I'd need to see a shot of the back of the case to authenticate, but I have very low hopes of this watch being genuine. | ||
| Herrk New member Username: Herrk Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2007 Rating: N/A |
Just for your information It is a running ebay auction ending in 3h: 320176135768 Movement is K825 (#1629937) but signed: Fab. Suisse Swiss Cartier Inc Adjusted to Three (3) Positions Seventeen (17) Jewels Cotes de Geneve are missing on that part of the bridge where the movement is signed. Christian | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 2926 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
the dial look refinished to me. Cartier Inc? Weird. If anything it should be European Watch Company, and the lugs should be stamped with a 3 digit Cartier case number. It's close enought to the 1970s, where I guess anything is possible, the fact that it says adjusted to 3 positions is a plus in my mind, but if in fact there is no Cotes de geneve stripe on the bridge where it is signed, it's definitely bogus. Just remember where it's coming from. | ||
| Martyw New member Username: Martyw Post Number: 55 Registered: 07-2007 Rating: N/A |
Herrk, when Zaf said be aware of the "source", he meant the seller. Go and read the thread "1950 Lecoultre Chronograph NOS" and see the comments about Webauktion24. I started as a total newbie with watches a few months ago, after receiving advices and knowledges from other members in here, when I saw that thread and went and checked out what Webauktion24 were selling, I really got a laugh. There were real items, but they came as often as the blue moon! So buyer be aware. Personally I won't touch any of his offerings. | ||
| Herrk New member Username: Herrk Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2007 Rating: N/A |
Thanks Marty, well, I did know what Zaf meant and was not interested in this Memovox (just my luck). IMO the interesting thing - apart from the criminal implications - is whether this and other sellers will finally have an impact on the prices collectors are willing to pay by quoting absurd buy-it-now prices. I assume that this part of the plan could work for them. Christian | ||
| Moyvore New member Username: Moyvore Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2007 Rating: N/A |
There is this movement ending today on eBay: Cartier LeCoultre Memovox automatic bumper movement good for parts - 50's - cal. K 825 - VERY RARE!! Item number: 160174837956 (Incomplete, but still fetching what seems like a high price given the uncertainties.) BTW, I have seen at least one cal 825 Gübelin previously offered on eBay, probably earlier this year. One wonders what other ones are out there. Of course, the IWC ref 3537 GST Alarm used a modified cal 916. Trying to like it, but the stark face evokes a Swiss railway clock. I wonder if the 916s were otherwise rebadged. Robert | ||
| Clavi New member Username: Clavi Post Number: 16 Registered: 11-2006 Rating: N/A |
916 appeared in the Favre Leuba Memoraider (under ref 917 as it has an alarm hand instead of a central alarm disc). I have also seen at least one Girard Perregaux with a 916 a few years ago. This is not entirely surprising as these two brands were very close to JLC at the time (same ownership if I remember well, group SAPHIR ?) The Gübelin and Cartier were only cal 825 I believe, and were the typical 'retailer' versions of JLC E855, so not different except the dial and the bridge writings. | ||
| Herrk New member Username: Herrk Post Number: 11 Registered: 03-2007 Rating: N/A |
Hi Robert, the movement you are referring to (K825 #1531283) does have a rotor bridge with complete Cotes de Geneve decoration. That looks more genuine to me. Christian |