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     Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 2911 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
With the rash of fakes coming out of Germany, I post this movement as a "public service". This has the correct bridge markings, VXN stamping and so on. It's the 3 register version of the UG285 caliber. The 2 register UG285 will be similar.  | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 2912 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Same for the Valjoux 72 chronos.  Although the Valjoux 23 was used, it is fairly rare to find it in a JLC/LC product. Most of these are fake when coming out of Germany from the famous auction site. | ||
| Gregb New member Username: Gregb Post Number: 80 Registered: 10-2006 Rating: N/A |
Zaf, I know very little about the JLC/LC chronos. Does this JLC chrono look correct to you?     Greg | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 3093 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
The movement looks OK to me it is out of a USA market watch. The case is iffy. I'm not sure. I don't see them putting "Acier Inoxydable" on the outside. I'd expect "Enversteel" on the inside. "Swiss" in italics is a little weird too. The dial is made up. Pure fantasy. | ||
| Gregb New member Username: Gregb Post Number: 81 Registered: 10-2006 Rating: N/A |
Shouldn't a USA-market watch have the VXN import code on the balance bridge like the one in your earlier photo? Also, I notice that the balance isn't shock protected... pre-1940s? I was certain that the dial was fantasy and suspected the case, but was also wary that the movement might have been also. Greg | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 3095 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
It has "Unadjusted" on the bridge and is marked "LeCoultre", which to me, would indicate a USA watch. The Euro stuff is typically "Jaeger" and no mention of adjustments. The movement might be from more than one watch, so in that case, it wouldn't have the import marks. It could have started as another brand with a bridge swap. Given the rest of it, this is likely what happened. In the best case, it's a franken watch with a fanasty dial, outright fraud in the worst case. | ||
| Ilja Moderator Username: Ilja Post Number: 218 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
This particular watch gave me a good laugh when I discovered it on the bay. ;) | ||
| Blgg New member Username: Blgg Post Number: 151 Registered: 04-2007 Rating: N/A |
to be found on a notorious auction venue - the German is good at crafting these:    | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 3102 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Another obvious fake. |