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charles

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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2000 - 04:59 am:   

I was offered the above watch which I had some queries. It is 17J full rotor and the shape is similar to the Omega barrel shape constellation but bigger in size. One of my friends said it is not a real one. His point is le coultre never makes a DD model and the movement is AS cal.1916 which is not supposed to be lecoultre style i.e. lecoultre seldom buy movement from the outsider. the movement does not have serial no. The original dail has JLC logo and wordings and there are lecoultre markings on the rotor and the inside case back. My question if this is a real LC production or something after market.
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zaf

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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 02:14 am:   

At a very minium you have an incorrect movement. LeCoultre as far as I know has made all of their movements in house with the exception of their chronographs which used either Universal Geneve or Valjoux ebauche (raw movements).

What do you mean by "DD"? Double date?
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Charles

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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 03:09 pm:   

'DD' stands for Day/Date. Sorry for the abbreviation. Would it be a kind of the Master Mariner series?
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zaf

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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 03:28 pm:   

There are double date JLC/LC movements, probably from 1970 on, but not made by A. Schild. They would be JLC signed, made by JLC, etc.

Another exception, the first Reverso did not use a JLC made movement, but one made by Tavannes I believe.
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Frederico Castro

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Posted on Monday, October 30, 2000 - 05:29 pm:   

Charles, I had a watch just like yours, with exactly the same caliber. I also wondered if it was real or not, but never found it out. I bought it in a lot in an auction in London, and sold it here in Portugal.
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Charles

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Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2000 - 02:15 am:   

Frederico, thanks input. This 'mystery' watch makes me confused. One of my friends show me another piece which is exactly the same and come with an original stainless steel JLC bracelet. Said that he is the first hand owner of that watch which cost him USD400 in the early 70s.
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zaf

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Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 12:08 am:   

Your friend's watch has a Schild movement??
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Charles

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2000 - 01:48 am:   

Yes, it got the AS logo and '1916' under the balance wheel. The automatic rotor and the inside case back signed 'LeCoultre'. There are two serial nos. on the outside case back also.
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zaf

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2000 - 11:42 pm:   

What is the serial number on the movement?

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Charles

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Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 01:53 am:   

There isnt any serial number on the movement. It is only marked as LeCoultre Co, 17 Jewels, Swiss. There are 2 line of serial numbers on the outside case back. The first line is E0300405 and the second line is 1242202.
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zaf

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Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2000 - 10:11 am:   

OK, I am almost certain the movement is not correct, even if oher people have the same watch. In my opinion they are all fakes or partial fakes. I've seen the same fakes in the Omega brand in the past, and Rolex & Cartier of course.
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Ilja
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Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 01:13 pm:   

Hi All,

so both watches have "Club" on the dial? - If so, they are orininal. -As far I can tell from the distance.- JLC produced "low budget" watches in the early 70�s. This line of watches was called the Club series.
Nearly all watches in the Club series used A. Schild movements.
To top it, a few were certified Chronometers...

Best regards,

Ilja
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Eyal
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Posted on Friday, July 11, 2003 - 03:57 pm:   

Hi,
I have a very similar watch, all characteristics seem identical to the ones described above except mine is in gold. The serial numbers are 1288505 and 0300801. I was wondering what its value is, and theoretically what would be its value if it were in better condition.

Thanx


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Zaf
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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 10:56 am:   

From a collector point of view, the "Clubs" are some of the least dersirable JLCs given the generic A. Schild movements. So I'm going to say $350-$450 depending on condition in gold. It may sell for more to someone thinking that these have the quality of all JLC efforts.
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Eyal
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:06 am:   

Thanks, a bit disapointed.
I was hoping that even though its a club the gold would make it a bit more valuable.
Nevertheless its a beauty.
Thanks again.