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Tue Rex
New member Username: Tue
Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 03:24 pm: | |
Hi, I've been offered a vintage JLC. I'm new to the marked and would be glad if anyone could comment on some of my questions. I've attached a picture. - It's said to be a original Memovox 1959 - true? - Is it an european or american edition? - Case diameter? - The clockwork is 825 - any known problems to this? - Is it suitable as a daily watch for wear-and-tear or a collecters item? - Waterproof or not? - Any suggestions on a a reasonable price? Thanks & regards Tue Rex ![Picture: JLC Memovox](https://www.classicwatch.com/discus/messages/622/1828.jpg) |
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Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 385 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 06:15 pm: | |
- It's said to be a original Memovox 1959 - true? 1959 would be the FIRST year of the 825, so it could be true BUT the hand style would indicate late, like 1965+. - Is it an european or american edition? Euro. - Case diameter? 37mm - The clockwork is 825 - any known problems to this? Make sure both the time & alarm set without crunching. - Is it suitable as a daily watch for wear-and-tear or a collecters item? Yes. - Waterproof or not? Not any more by a long shot. - Any suggestions on a a reasonable price? Around $1400 give or take, more if very clean and more if original bracelet. |
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Tue Rex
New member Username: Tue
Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 06:55 pm: | |
Hi, Thanks for the fast and precise answer. I'm really looking forward to see this watch "in real life" monday. I'm curious to know how u can tell it's an european edition? And to be 100% sure: it's suitable as a daily watch?! About the hands: could they've been changed for some reason? Thanks again. Regards Tue |
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Tue Rex
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Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 07:15 pm: | |
Hi again, The model# is 783263, I've tried to decode the number by information found on www.jlcsociety.com, but I've not manage to succeed. Can anybody tell if this give some important information, e.g. 'bout the age of the watch? Regards Tue |
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Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 388 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 08:21 pm: | |
That isn't the model number it is the case number. The case reference number is E855. I can date the watch if you have the movement serial number. |
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Tue Rex
New member Username: Tue
Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 03:11 am: | |
Thanks Zaf. Maybe u can give a short describtion af the terminology .. i.e. what is - The movement serial - and where is it printed? - The casenumber? (guess: a running production number?) - The case reference number? (guess: give me case type?) - Other numbers a should know of? Know this may be silly questions, but being a rookie in the field I'm rather confused. Thanks a lot. Tue |
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Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 389 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 08:56 am: | |
- The movement serial - and where is it printed? On the movement. - The casenumber? (guess: a running production number?) Outside cae back, usually. - The case reference number? (guess: give me case type?) Inside case back unsually. - Other numbers a should know of? Not that I am aware of |
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Tue Rex
New member Username: Tue
Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 06:52 am: | |
Hi, Thanks for the answer. I'm still curious to know what type of information the numbers hold, i.e. what do the below numbers tell me about the watch? Movement serial? Casenumber? Case reference number? Regards � Tue P.S. Zaf, how can u tell it's an european edition? |
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Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 390 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 11:31 am: | |
The "European" edition would be marked Jaeger-LeCOultre on the dial, the American one "LeCoultre" up until about 1976 after which all were marked Jaeger-LeCoultre. The numbers allow you to date the watch, if you do not have the case reference number, the case serial number will give you that, but only the factory can do that look up.
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Tue Rex
New member Username: Tue
Post Number: 6 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 12:25 pm: | |
Hi, I saw the above watch today. Beatiful. I seems the model came with a black and a silver dial in 1959 (maybe the silver model was issued a little later). The black model had pointed arms, while the silver seems to have had retangular arms as shown on the above picture. In 2001 the dial was damaged as the glass broke. The watch was repaired at the 'manufacture JLC' in Switzerland where a new memowox dial was put on. How does this affect the value of the watch?? Regards Tue |
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Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 393 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 12:51 pm: | |
The dial switch should not impact value. |
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Tue Rex
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Post Number: 8 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 03:12 pm: | |
Hi Zaf, Thanks for the many answers. Now I'll just have to decide if a go for the watch or not ... Tue |
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Tue Rex
New member Username: Tue
Post Number: 9 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 04:00 pm: | |
Hi again, Which material is the dial and the hands made of? Tue |
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Zaf
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Post Number: 396 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 05:12 pm: | |
I'm not sure. Nothing like a solid gold or silver on the alarms, probably a chrome plated base metal for the hands and a brass alloy of some kind for the dial. |
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Tue Rex
New member Username: Tue
Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 12:14 pm: | |
Him I bought the watch. Happy with it. Need a little advise on the daily use: The watch is not waterproof for sure, so I won't jump in the pool. But how about rainy days where the watch may be exposed to water because of inappropiate cloth ... will this damage the watch or can it stand some direct rain? Thanks again. T |
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Zaf
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Post Number: 399 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 01:31 pm: | |
I think you're OK with direct rain....just don't submerge it. |
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Ken Lin Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 04:19 am: | |
Hi can anyone tell me more about this Memovox. It is said to be 14K yellow gold, USA-made and 916 caliber. Which year is it made? What would be a just price to pay for one now? Thank you very much.![Memovox](https://www.classicwatch.com/discus/messages/622/1906.jpg) |
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Zaf
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Post Number: 423 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 12:06 pm: | |
The 916 was made between 1969-1978, I'd imagine your piece is from the early 1970s though as the LeCoultre name was no longer used after 1976. |
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Ken Lin Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 08:04 pm: | |
Thanks, Zaf. Do you know what model this Memovox is? What is a just price to pay for this now if I wanna buy it? Thanks a lot! |
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Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 425 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 09:39 pm: | |
The US alrams aren't really going to have a "model name". If it is 14k solid gold it should go for $1500-1700 (and up) depending on originality and condition... |
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Ken Lin Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 11:10 pm: | |
Thanks again, Zaf. |
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Erik Deen
New member Username: Erikdeen
Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 06:01 am: | |
I hope you can help me to indicate the age of my Memovox: C 825, number 1431842, Lenght 21 cm, depth 12,8 cm, weight 50,1 gram (18 carat solid gold with steel back), housediameter 36,5 cm. There are no numbers on the dialplate and the dialplate is only with the word Jaeger-LeCoultre, not the specific logo. The former owner claims that the Memovox is made in �1951, but I read that the 825 (with date) was made starting 1959, so 1951 cannot be correct. Question: what age is more likely? Regards, Erik |
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Zaf
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Post Number: 1500 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 07:49 am: | |
Hi. Year watch dates to 1959-1960...1951 is not possible. |
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beeth23 Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 11:31 am: | |
Hi, I have a watch exactly the same as the first picture on this page (the one which was posted April 2, 2004). The only difference is that it is gold (yellow). It has been handed down to me - never worked. I want to get it repaired - what's the best option? |
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Zaf
Moderator Username: Zaf
Post Number: 1583 Registered: 05-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:58 am: | |
Where are you? |
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Paul Moore Unregistered guest
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:10 pm: | |
Can anyone date a Memovox which has the following movement #: 6656600 Can anyone tell me where I might get a reprint of the owners instruction manual? |
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JC Gonzalez
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Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 05:14 am: | |
Can someone direct me where to purchase a JL Memvox Master Reveil Stainless steel ref. 141 84 20 with black leather strap? I prefer new. Thanks - |