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Martyw
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Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 11:38 am:   

Here is another watch from past auctions. It looks fine to me, but why no one bidded on it? Are there any problems with it? I think the price was pretty good if everything was as described.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270145143841&ssPageName= STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017

The only two things I can spot are:

1) the dial probably has been refinished. Picking up from what gatorcpa has said in another thread, the hour markers' condition is not as good as the dial itself,

2) the crown should probably be embossed with "LeC", but the price reflected that.

Anything else?
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Jimh
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Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 02:10 pm:   

No one bid because at $800 is is overpriced for the watch and the condition.
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Gatorcpa
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Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 04:46 pm:   

Marty -

Actually I meant that the hands had plating loss, while the dial was clean on that other JLC. Usually dial markers are polished when the dial is refinished.

Sorry for any confusion.

I agree with JimH's assessment on the other one you posted. The dial looks very nice and original, though. The watch was rather roughly polished and some of the engraving on the bezel was worn off.

Also, in looking at these, the JLC's generally sell for more for several reasons. First, the gold content is usually higher (18K vs. 14K) and few JLC's are gold plated. Second, the JLC cases were made in Switzerland and usually were of better quality (although some models are exactly the same). Finally and most importantly, is the brand connection to the present day JLC watches.

Many collectors outside of the US have never heard of "LeCoultre", as that brand was only sold here.

Hope this helps,
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Martyw
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Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 05:15 pm:   

Thanks for the explanations, gatorcap, and JimH's assessment. I thought the bezel was supposed to have the old time hand-hammered effect. Now that you've mentioned it, I can see how horrible the bezel's condition actually is.

A follow up question: are original crowns on these 18K/14K gold watches also made of solid gold? Or they are always gold-plated? I assume it's the same for both LeCoultre in the States and JLC in the rest of the world?

Thanks.
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Gatorcpa
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Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 08:09 pm:   

I think it depends on the particular model, but most are/were gold plated. Some top of the line models may have had solid gold crowns.

I have two watches which are rose gold that have signed crowns of the proper style (one is my JLC on the other thread). Both have turned yellow, which I suspect is the base metal.

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Gregb
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Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 08:40 pm:   

The average auction value of the model you've shown is about $400-$500 so it was overpriced by quite a bit.

I really hate it when sellers try to claim that a U.S.-market LeCoultre VXN-marked movement is a Vacheron product. So many sellers intentionally perpetuate this myth in hopes of getting a higher value for their watch by incorrectly attributing the movement to Vacheron. Shameful.

Greg
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Martyw
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Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 08:37 am:   

Thanks, gatorcpa and Greg.