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Blgg
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Post Number: 90
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Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 11:02 am:   

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Zaf
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Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 11:38 am:   

is there a question?
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Blgg
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Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 11:42 am:   

Good morning Zaf,

What are the odds that the dial is original?

Also, it's the first one of these I've seen with Alpha hands - do they 'feel' out of place?

Thank you.
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Zaf
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Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 11:51 am:   

I think the odds are pretty good that the dial is original. It's supposed to be a frosted white exterior and a silver-ish interior.
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Blgg
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Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 12:42 pm:   

a fairly early movement number -- late 40s? -- before the 'debut'?

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Gregb
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Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 02:11 pm:   

Definitely not 1940s, as you suspect. The serial number on this movement dates from approximately 1951.

I would agree with Zaf that the dial is original. I had this exact model in mint condition with an original dial and it was exactly as your pictures show.

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Zaf
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Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 02:24 pm:   

The watch was introduced in 1951 at the basel fair but was available up to a year before that in 1950, a fact confirmed by the factory. To me the movement was made in 1949 (if you stretch it early 1950) and was cased as a complete watch in 1950/1951 max.

The thing with movement serial #s, is that they can be made 1-2 years before they ever find their way into a watch, so there is always a gray area and exact dating of when something was cased is difficult. To my knowledge JLC does not keep track of the manufacture date of case serial numbers (or that information was lost in the 1970s). They've told me that a lot of records where destroyed after the quartz revolution.
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Blgg
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Post Number: 93
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Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 02:37 pm:   

Good afternoon Gregb,

Not to lay bare my mercenary tendencies, but would you consider emailing me the price at which you sold the similar, though mint, piece?

Best regards.