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Miki46
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 11:27 am:   

First off all hi to everyone.
I have this single pusher swiss chronograph but dial is in bad shape and i cant determin the brand.So If someone can determin the watch movement that could be helpful.There are no specific marks on movement ,its 17 jewel, but under the dial on the movement is stamped : brevet 5414 (that means patent) and swiss cross mark +. Also under the dial on movement is stamped number 20. On the back side of the dial is stamped:; Singer , Chaux de fonde, and number 37, that is also the movement diameter in mm.Also I found on net some pics of same movement in Damas and Postala watches but also unsigned.

movement my watch

.Could it be some of Minerva Cal.20 movements ( but I could not find any with 37 mm dia.) or maybe Landeron?Any suggestions are welcome!

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Zaf
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 07:30 am:   

This is a single button?
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 11:48 am:   

Yes, as i wrote in my post,single pusher.That means single button, one button ,etc.
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 11:53 am:   

Also the movement is identical with Hanhart cal.40/50 , and the diameter is matching ,but im not sure that is Hanhart, cause there are like i said brevet and swiss cross stamped on the movement.
Maybe some swiss makers copy that hanhart cal.?Any ideas?
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 12:09 pm:   

I looked at it and it is VERY similar if not the same as the Hanhart. Very strange. Here is the Hanhart:
http://www.watch-prices.com/graphics/rx2104m.jpg
It may be Hanhart supplied ebauche to the Swiss. If it is a Hanhart, it's worth something as you can reapit the more expensive war time watches with it.

It also looks a ittle like a Landeron 2, but not quite the same.
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 04:30 pm:   

Tnx Zaf.Hanhart factory was established in Swiss so maybe they start to produce cal40/50 back then,before they moved to Germany.But the dates does not fit.Hanhart pilots single button started to produce 1939 i think, and factory moved to germany in '20 s or so.Also the dial on my watch does not look like hanhart dials.look:

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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   

It could be a predecessor to the Hanhart 40/50.

It being a Hanhart is the closest match from the parts catalogs books. Otherwise look into the Landeron 2.
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Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 05:04 pm:   

Zaf, do you have any good picture of landeron 2 movement?All that i manage to find on net is low quality.Some link maybe?Thanks.
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Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 05:20 pm:   

This is a Landeron 2.

http://www.classicwatch.com/graphics/mptz0489c.jpg
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Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 06:11 pm:   

Which is what I think you have in the end. It's amazing how similar the movement is to the Hanhart.
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Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 04:24 am:   

I think this is a Landeron 2. I like it!