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Lander
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 08:06 am:   

I am new to this forum and this is my very first post. I own a Timor wrist watch with the chronometer ring. I started to use it again after 10 years storage in a drawer as it seems that it is again modern (lol).
I was curious and went to the watch makers and repair services in my are but nobady even knew about the brand name Timor. I have checked the internet but there it is a lack of the information about that brand name. I have succeeded to find only that the Timor was among the choosen producers of watches for the British Army and had an issue with the incabloc patent in late 50's. And that is more or less all unfortunately. Does anyoneknow some more about that brand name?
Here it is a photo of my watch:

Timor wrist watch
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Jimh
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 09:15 am:   

TIMOR was a brand of the Timor Watch Co. - J. Bernheim & Co., La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland. The brand was registered in 1945 but had been in use since 1927.

The ring on your watch is not a "chronometer ring" but, rather is a timing ring used for scuba diving. Your watch likely dates to the mid-late 60s or early 70s. I would guess that it had an ETA 2472 (or related) movement inside.

Sorry, I don't know any of the details of the company itself. There were hundreds of Swiss assemblers of watches from parts from the major Swiss suppliers of movements, i.e., ETA, A. Schild, etc.

Post some pictures of the back of the watch and movement (if possible) and someone may be able to tell you more.
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Lander
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 10:33 am:   

Uh...thanks for the info! It is true - it is a diving watch or at least for sailing or so...
I have taken two snaps of the watch, but I don't darn to open the back as it seems very compact. On the back is a number 2472 which I thought that it is a serial.
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Jimh
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:23 am:   

The 2472 on the back undoubtedly means that the movement is, indeed, an ETA 2472. Your watch appears to have a brass case which is chrome-plated with a stainless steel back. The watch was originally rated to a depth of 10 ATM (330 feet) but I wouldn't get it near water now given its age. It looks to be in good condition.

Here's some information on the ETA 2472: http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk&ETA_2472
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Lander
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 01:00 pm:   

Thanks for the lecture. So, as I do understand there was a one prodoucer of the movement and different brands-watchmakers had implemented their own design of the final watch?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 08:06 am:   

Many "producers" of these sort of watches obtained all their parts from other Swiss manufacturers, i.e., cases, dials, hands, movements, crowns, etc. Others produced some parts themselves usually relying on ebauche suppliers for the most complex part, i.e., the movement.

Major Swiss movement suppliers included:

ETA
A. Schild
Fontainemelon (FHF)
Felsa
Peseux
and many others.

The overall design appearance of the watch would be specified by the "producer", however, many times standard cases (not unique to the "producer") would be used.

I don't know what amount of production Timor actually did.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 02:59 am:   

I found interesting feature of ETA 2472 movement, which I didnt noticed in previous years. The date doesn't change progressively like with ETA 2452 but it 'jumps' after midnight like with digital watches.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 04:47 am:   

I have gotten the proper tool to open backs of the wrist watches. I have had an experience with some other technical stuff before so now this is quite easy now. I was extremely carefull with the washer which seems in a very good condition.
I think it is nice to share the details of the ETA 2472 movement in the Timor 'case':


ETA 2472

ETA 2472