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     Jaz New member Username: Jaz Post Number: 3 Registered: 07-2008 Rating: N/A |
Does anyone know anything about this OMEGA wristwatch? The white dial has no name but the movement is stamped OMEGA. It's about 46mm. Really big - almost as large as a small pocket watch but I'm told it isn't a conversion owing to the stock being at the 3pm position (On a pocket watch it would be at the 12.) I've been told it was Airforce though it doesn't have the arrow mark. Any help appreciated. Also what's it worth? Perfect timekeeper, manual, metal and steel back.   | ||
| Gatorcpa Member Username: Gatorcpa Post Number: 72 Registered: 11-2006 Rating: N/A |
I would have concerns about this authenticity of this watch, due to the lack of a serial number on the movement. Hope this helps, gatorcpa | ||
| Jimh Junior Member Username: Jimh Post Number: 34 Registered: 06-2007 Rating: N/A |
This is an Omega movement. It appears to be a 19 ligne S 7-16 p caliber. Note that, prior to 1912, the Omega serial number was engraved on the dial side of the movement so it would not be visible in this view of the movement. This is a "hunter" style pocket watch movement which, at some point in its history, has been converted into a wristwatch. Note that pocket watch movements intended for hunter-style pocket watch cases have the crown at 3 o'clock with sub seconds at 6 o'clock. These are ideal for conversion to wristwatches. The dial and case are probably not from Omega. Note that the dial appears to be rotated slightly counter-clockwise. This is probably because the case retention screws (at 1:30 and 6:30 in the picture) are missing and the movement is free to rotate a bit in the case.. | ||
| Gatorcpa Member Username: Gatorcpa Post Number: 73 Registered: 11-2006 Rating: N/A |
Learn something new every day. Thanks JimH! gatorcpa | ||
| Jaz New member Username: Jaz Post Number: 4 Registered: 07-2008 Rating: N/A |
Many thanks, Jimh for that invaluable information. Do you have any idea of the value? PS THanks also to Gatorpa for your interest. jaz | ||
| Gregb Member Username: Gregb Post Number: 95 Registered: 10-2006 Rating: N/A |
Actually, the rotation doesn't appear to be because of the movement screws missing. Rather, it is likely because the dial is missing the dial feet and has rotated. Look at how the crown is out of alignment with the 3 o'clock position on the dial and the subseconds hand (which appears to have a very large opening) is at the far left side of the hole. My guess is that the dial is not original and had the dial feet clipped off so it would fit on the watch. The movement is indeed authentic, as Jim pointed out. The re-cased watch probably originates in the Ukraine or Eastern Europe, as Omega had a very strong presence there in the early 1900s and these re-cased watches are seen frequently today from Ukranian sellers. Greg | ||
| Jimh Junior Member Username: Jimh Post Number: 35 Registered: 06-2007 Rating: N/A |
Gregb you certainly could be right on the dial. Value? Not much, basically just the value of the movement. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 3321 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Before you guys cast off this peice as a conversion, THERE DOES EXIST a super oversized Omega in a base metal/steel back case that is in the size range. I've seen it once in the flesh in very poor condition and in some old catalogs. So while it is likely to be a conversion from a pocket watch, there is a chance it isn't. If the serial number is in fact on the dial side of the movment, it might not be a bad plan to do a little more research. Omega should be able to look it up in their archives once you have the serial#. | ||
| Gregb Member Username: Gregb Post Number: 97 Registered: 10-2006 Rating: N/A |
Zaf, the problem lies in the fact that the movement is from pre-1912 while the case is clearly a design from much later. This would preclude it being a genuine Omega product unless they had decided to re-case some old movements in new cases as a commemorative issue. In addition, the dial is misaligned with the movement, indicating that the feet have been clipped. There would be no reason to do this with a stock Omega model. While I don't doubt what you claim about an oversize Omega model existing, it is very unlikely that this is one of them. Greg | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 3345 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
You're probably right. I was just pointing out a slim possibility. | ||
| Jaz New member Username: Jaz Post Number: 9 Registered: 07-2008 Rating: N/A |
Thank you , guys, for your fascinating insights. THis is certainly a forum where you find yourself on quite a learning curve - even if what you learn isn't always to your advantage (monetarily, that is). |