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Jaketheskull
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 09:27 am:   

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:09 am:   

its calbre 285 old its 1937 and its enver steel
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:12 am:   

It's an American market LeCoultre chrono, what makes you think it is a Cartier? The case has none of the characteristics of a Cartier Case.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:36 am:   

there is a carier product number on it
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:50 am:   

Please post photo of the dial and the lug that has the Cartier stampings.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:16 am:   

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:22 am:   

my father had lots of information on this watch and i will send you it if you like. Can you give me any idea about value. he was offered �100,000.00 pounds 5 years ago but he did not want money as it had a sentimental value. but he has passed away now and i was left it in his will. So can you help me find buyer or point me in right direction.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:35 am:   

My advice would be to take the 100,000 pounds and run to the bank with it next time you get an offer like that. This sounds like an auction piece as someone like myself would not be able to sell it unless it comes with a closet full of documentation and papers from Cartier. No one in my surroundings would pay even 1/10th of that.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:53 am:   

have you ever seen anything like this watch before. and can you tell me any information about it. i had given it to cartier in bond street in england and they had it for 7 months. i also spoke to bernard berger from cartier. but they wanted 1000 pounds to give cert for watch then they said they wont so i told him i was selling it as genuine cartier and if they had a problem he could take me to court over the watch he said he would not contradict that its a real cartier watch.Also the top men in Lacoultre had it as well.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 12:02 pm:   

The Cartier print and the red numbers, to me, look like they were added after the dial was printed. They're much less sharp.

All I can tell you is that it is an American Market watch. It was not sold in Europe. To me, selling such a thing at a high price is quasi impossible unless it has a factory authentification, and you won't get it because no one kept track of what went on in the American market. LeCoultre did not keep track of the movements they sent to the USA in terms of what they were cased in.

So while it is possible it is real, you'll need to prove it.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 12:15 pm:   

and if cartier give the proof is it worth alot? and about how much just a ball park figure would do. and are you the person who could sell it what commission would you charge.I have alot of information on it and i will email it to you if you are willing to help me get a rich home for it.my email is [email protected]. please let me know by email kind regards James
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 12:20 pm:   

i think its a special addition watch that was give to member of the us army. does the 1937 make any difference. I cant find any information on 1937 285 old calibre works. do you have any information on this either
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 02:39 pm:   

I seriously doubt Cartier had any involvement with the U.S. Army.

The caliber 285 is made by Universal Geneve which itself is either made by or made under license from a compnay called Martell Watch. So the watch you have is a Universal Geneve, re-badged as a LeCoultre, re-badged as a Cartier. This same watch as Universal Geneve would be worth around $1500 and around $2000 as a LeCoultre.
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Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 08:26 am:   

I can try to help you. I have connections mainly in Europe. There are plenty of people russians and other eastern europeans not to mention germans running around that will slap you a handfull of 1000 euro notes for that watch.if its really legit.all i need are a bunch of pics and information.from there i can start shooting emails.around the world in multiple languages.too bad it was not sold before.100k pounds was double that in dollars then
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Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 08:38 am:   

Post more pics of that watch please..inside of the caseback would be nice? A friend of mine, probably one of the biggest collectors in europe, collecting over 40 years under the iron curtain..owns several patek chronos will check it out..he will know!
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Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 04:39 pm:   

I think I had a few too many budweiser in my belly and brain when i was looking at this watch before. Just checked out the rest, and it again. Looks like you got you a nice american market lecoultre chrono. I've had a few of those. The dial is suspicious though!
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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 09:21 am:   








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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 02:05 pm:   

Hi, I can't make of that out. Do you want to send me copies? [email protected] Thanks.
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Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 07:28 pm:   

Hi Zaf i have not heard back from you in a while can you let me know if you have any more information about the watch i emailed you. Please let me know if you have any news Kind Regards James H
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Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 10:18 pm:   

No, I couldn't make anything out from the scans, they're too light. I probably would not have much to add anyway.