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Abba
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 09:17 am:   

By the seller stated to be "mk XII "(12) marked 6e/884 with a JLC movement cal 885.

What can be told about this model and its movement and are they collectable ?
Price range ?
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Ilja Probst
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 11:57 am:   

Pure bullshit.
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Abba
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 01:14 pm:   

Yes isnt it ! And this is from a very reputed dealer
and watchmaker... I had never heard of it before and found a bit suspicious but wasnt quite sure.
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Ilja Probst
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   

Well, I saw these coming from a German dealer named Watch-time.de (sort of bullshit wholesaler).
The Danish guy (if this is the dealer in question) definitely should know its fake, but on the other hand, there are not many who really care what they sell...
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Abba
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 03:44 pm:   

Yes Ilja it was the Dane - and they should really know, I was almost fooled by this thinking they must know something I didnt.

Are you based in Europe ? And which vintage watch dealers are to be trusted 100% (if thats possible)
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Ilja Probst
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 04:49 pm:   

I�m in Duesseldorf, Germany.
Actually I don�t trust dealers, except Zaf of course. ;-)
It�s an ocean full of hungry sharks out there.
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Abba
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 05:04 pm:   

I have been collecting WWs for 5-6 years now and some I have bought on auction sites, some at old retired watchmakers around my area, some private from friends and their friends. This is low budget watches mostly but in the last year I have found myself looking at more pricy pieces. I find it often too risky to buy something more costly than 500 euro on ebya. Although many of the items on this site (classicw) has a fair price and seems to be sold by someone with a good attitude I hoped there was some dealers in Europe that is equally trustworthy. Import from US will add a lot of cost especially on more expensive pieces.
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 09:24 am:   

What are you looking for exactly? I can ship out of France & Germany frequently.
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 04:49 pm:   

Just thought I'd defend my countryman a bit.
The "Dane", M�lbak is a very respected and activ guy in danish vintagewatch cirkels.
His mistake reg. the "Mrk. XII" is not deliberate.

Yours

Jacob Winther
Copenhagen
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Abba
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Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 07:13 pm:   

Well - could well be that his "mistake" is soon going to be a costly affair for another person, as the item is still offered for sale. If he is well respected and active in vintage circles in your country it makes it even worse, or sader, or both..