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Roger in Vermont
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 02:17 pm:   

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Re: Inquiry...WW2 Vintage Helvetia US military watch

These are frequently captued German "D.H." watches, do the letters "D" and "H" appear on the back?
If you can do me a favor and carry the discussion to the military watch forum:

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Ingoldsby" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Inquiry...WW2 Vintage Helvetia US military watch






Zaf
I noticed your website and forum with much interest as I have a Helvetia military issue watch that I have had since the early 1950's having acquired it a a kid poking about surplus outlets in New York City where I grew up. I would much like to get it repaired...seems to have stem problems, cracked domed crystal� and perhaps find out more about the history. I do not think it was manufactured� directly for US issue but rather acquired for military use but it does have US Ordanance markings. I will get some photos of it soon but let me describe it briefly.� The front has a light silver background with prominent Arabic� numbers, full sweep second hand, the hands and letters a greenish luminescent with black border, and "Waterproof " arched over the name "Helvetia". On the back imprinted in outer circle is "Non-magnetic, Waterproof, Shock Absorber" and on outer portion in circular is stamped "U.S. Army Ord.� No.� OH 95758". In the very� center of the back in small� script is� "stainless steel back" beneath� that "3190" and under that a "2". I recently noticed a 1940's vintage "Royale"� Rolex model which looked� very similar.
I am an amateur WW2 collector and historian...have a few WW2� 4X4 WC Dodge military vehicles that I have restored and� acumulated related militaria�� thus the watch has a significant sentimental history for me. I would much appreciate any of your insight.
Thanks,
Roger C. ingoldsby

Vermont










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Roger in Vermont
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 02:21 pm:   

Zaf
No ...there is no DH on the back just the OH. as I indicated as part of the US Army Ord imprint. Roger
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Zaf
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 02:32 pm:   

so it is like this w/o the DH markings?
http://www.watch-prices.com/graphics/images/watches/mptz0192.jpg
http://www.watch-prices.com/graphics/images/watches/mptz0192a.jpg
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Roger in Vermont
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:34 pm:   

Yes...on back around outer edge then similar US Army Ordnance OH marking but no DH...also has the "Non magnetic, Waterproof, Shock Absorber" imprinted inner ring. Also the face is completely different...as I indicated it has a light silver background, full sweep second hand with greenish luminescent hands and Arabic numbers. Will try to get photo downloaded.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:46 pm:   

Ok, I se what watch we are talking about. What is your question?
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Roger in Vermont
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 11:22 pm:   

Zaf
My questions are detailed in original message above...I desire to get it repaired and perhaps get some info on its history
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 09:28 am:   

It's definitely a WWII ear issue watch, maybe of them were also captured from the Germans and have the ORD #s stamped on them side by side with the German DH markings.

I can probably get it repaired for you, but I'm running a little backlog at the moment and the repair quote is by estimate. Complete verhauls usually run about $125 + parts.
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Roger in Vermont
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Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 09:12 pm:   

What would be the estimated time to get it repaired and is there any specific problem in getting this type of watch repaired? Also let me know your address for shipping purposes. Thanks
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rob rouse
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 05:45 pm:   

Hiya,i bought a watch exactly the same as this off a carboot sale at the weekend.
It doesnt have DH on the back but the number 3190
Is it German issue?
Thanks
Rob
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Zaf
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 06:48 pm:   

If it is a Swiss made watch (like Helvetia), I'd expect DH markings for an issue watch. So I'd say yours is a civilian piece.
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Bergans
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Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 06:46 am:   

Hi,
I have a Helvetia watch model 3190 DH.
The watch is running fine, but the winder comes out.
Do you know somebody who can repair the watch?
Thanks,

Yvan
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Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 04:33 pm:   

Most likely It's a loose detente screw. You might able to fix it yourself!