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     Abba Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
I�ve noticed that some military Jaegers marked GSTP have along with their military numbers (or what it is) two letters; FO or XX. What does these mean ? Are there any differences between a watch marked with XX and FO ? Read on a web site (think it was chealwatch) that XX ment a higher quality and had cost the Brits 9 times more than those not marked XX. But as the watch was for sale...who knows ?This was a watch with a 467/1 movement. Any particular to say about this ? Abba | ||
| Abb Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
The info I was talking about and wondered whether is correct is found here: http://www.chealwatch.com/Jaeger-LeCoultre.htm | ||
| Ilja Probst Moderator Username: Ilja Post Number: 157 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
I�m not into pocketwatches, but from my experience with other LeCoultre military watches, I don�t buy this story at all. Pretty much seems to be verbal pimp-up to justify rediciulous pricing. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1595 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Pretty much pure nonsense what is said in that link. The JLC pocket watches, outside the movement itself where pretty much pieces of junk. They made 30,000 of them. They're cased in lousy chrome plated cases and have dials that melt, crack, peal and self desdruct. It's so poorly made that it is a watch that is very difficult to find in good shape. These were very very inexpensive watches at the time and were designed to be semi-disposible. | ||
| Abba Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
On your (timepieces) page it says: ... high grade military watch for british forces,50mm size! (Ref r454)...hmmm But the question was what does XX mean ? Diffrences known between 467/1 and 467/2 ? | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1606 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Hello, the watch is not mine. Finer times has several vendors under one roof and do not edit nor do I control what is listed there. If you want to deal with me exclusively my inventory is listed at classicwatch.com. Back to the question: No one is arguing the qualities of the MOVEMENT, the movement IS nicely finished, but its fragile. The pivots break easily and parts are quasi impossible to source. Regardless of what vendors say, the rest of the watch is junk and if you've had one in your hands I'm sure you'd agree. No idea what XX means. I'd need a photo. The /1 or /2 are revisions versions 1 and 2 to the 467. Thanks, Zaf | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1608 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
As a follow up, the Letters like "F" are the manufacturer code. "F" corresponds to Jaeger-LeCoultre, Longines & Record. Other examples are like "P" which corresponds to Cyma & Eterna, "Y" is Omega, etc. | ||
| Abba Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
See what you mean and I wondered about the inventory beeing different between classic watch and finer times and the forum being the same, and no offence ment..it s a very cheap case but I kind of like it though.. I have one of these and its a JLC but no F ( or any other letter) in front of the number just XX beneath it. I didnt buy what the guy in the link above said but the 467/1 (as in mine) looks more nicely finished than the 467/2s I have seen. Is it possible yo date these watches/movements ? | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1609 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Well some cost sharing is done out of economic necessity. I own the forum however, I just share i with FT. I can date movements yes. The 467, 467/1 and 467/2 will be VERY VERY similar. I would be surprised you can visualy tell them apart without really digging into the movement. Please post the photo (or link) of the XX back, by all means. The engravings were done by the Brits, the watches all left JLC roughly at the same time, the order was for 30.000 units. Calibers 467 /1 /2 can be in production simultaneously, so any can be fitted in any of the 30.000 pcs. Zaf | ||
| Abba Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Like this:  | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1611 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the photo. I'll have to see if I can't find what XX means. I am on the road at the moment so I do not have my records with me. | ||
| Abba Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
And here's a Leonidas pocket military watch with a letter in front of the military number and the same XXs  | ||
| Abba Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Zaf:Did you ever find out what the XX can mean ? Since last I have seen this several other makers than the ones mentioned in this string. | ||
| Zaf Moderator Username: Zaf Post Number: 1913 Registered: 05-2003 Rating: N/A |
I do not know for sure. If I were to guess, it is where they would normally put the issue year. Perhaps on certains types of watches, the issue year was not important and they just went with XX. | ||
| Abba Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Could be, but then again, I have never seen any GSTP with issue year on the caseback. Well its not a thing that keep me up at night - just wondered... |